
Episodes

Friday Apr 28, 2023
Friday Apr 28, 2023
On this episode of Five by Five host Jason DuVernay and Gary Michalk from the Negotiating Committee introduce a conversation between Delta Air Lines First Officer Ryan Argenta and Attorney Marcus Migliore. Marcus has nearly 30 years of experience with ALPA and currently serves as General Counsel & Director, Legal Department.
Ryan and Marcus discuss the implications of the Railway Labor Act (RLA) on Section 6 negotiations and how pilot-coordinated self-help actions can adversely derail progress at the table. Digging into a number of cases where pilot actions, such as refusing to pick up open time trips, premium trips, and coordinating sick outs we learn about court actions and stiff sanctions for individual pilots and the union. We learn what self-help actions pilots can take under the RLA and how pilot unity, wearing lanyards, and informational picketing make a huge impact at the negotiating table. As things heat up in negotiations and this summer, Mr. Migliore explains how important it is for ALPA pilots to keep cool, follow the rules and laws imposed by the RLA, and let ALPA and elected representatives follow the defined flow process. (Recorded June 9, 2022)
Time Stamps
01:57 - Understanding Marcus and his ALPA involvement
04:23 - Why you should not engage in illegal work actions
06:42 - Importance of Unity
08:33 - Protections provided by the RLA
10:41 - Begining of Delta Podcast: 'Status Quo'
14:37 - What if management violates 'Status Quo'
16:30 - Previous 'Status Quo' violations and their resulting penalties
18:20 - Dangers of 'grass-roots' work actions
20:26 - Digital Trails
22:50 - Individual pilot penalization in previous cases
23:47 - Does the RLA need to be changed or updated?
26:05 - Meaningful and proper actions
27:45 - Using the current environment to our advantage

Saturday Apr 22, 2023
Informed Bargaining | Meet Your Negotiating Committee
Saturday Apr 22, 2023
Saturday Apr 22, 2023
Host Jason DuVernay sits down with your Negotiating Committee (NC) chairman and members to discuss our upcoming Section 6 negotiation process.
Chair Captain Jim Lally, Captain Mark Manausa, and Captain Gary Michalk chat with Jason about early openers, surveys, communications, pay disparity, your participation and more.
Time Stamps
03:05 - Introductions and background of the committee members
07:41 - How to engage with the NC through your representatives
09:59 - How the negotiation process has changed now that ALPA has been fully implemented
15:10 - What is an Early opener?
15:55 - Professional help; negotiating with an experienced team
17:44 - How committees contribute to the negotiation process
19:32 - Where does the negotiating team draw their direction from?
28:32 - How to bake a "negotiation pie"
29:52 - Addressing pay disparity
35:52 - Contract Compliance
37:02 - Does flying for an Ultra-Low-Cost-Carrier mean we should expect less?
38:06 - Scope
40:28 - Communications from the committee
44:12 - Being Professional

Monday Feb 13, 2023
Welcome to the Five by Five Podcast | Comms Check
Monday Feb 13, 2023
Monday Feb 13, 2023
In our latest Frontier pilot podcast, our host Jason DuVernay has a wide-ranging conversation with Communications Committee Chairman Todd Bole and MEC Chairman Alan Christie.
We haven’t done a podcast in a while, so we cover a lot of ground, including why we decided to re-launch the podcast. We also talk about:
- a refresher on ways to interact with the union
- Volunteer opportunities
- the various communication channels available to pilots
- our RGS visits and other opportunities to interact face-to-face, including our upcoming pub events.
With the MEC meeting and elections coming up, we discussed how the LEC & MEC meetings are structured, and how the nomination and election process works for executive positions including the Negotiating Committee.
You should have heard by now that the MEC is doing another round of telephone polling conducted by the University of New Hampshire, but if you haven’t, we discuss the upcoming survey, how the questions are created and how the process works, as well as additional tools the union will use to understand the desires of the pilot population as we get closer to entering negotiations.
Time Stamps
01:49 - Introductions
04:57 - Why we are re-launching the podcast and how it will be different
07:56 - Existing Channels for Union Communications
10:31 - RGS Visits and other face-to-face opportunities to meet
16:19 - Volunteer needs and opportunities
22:23 - Social media
32:04 - MEC/LEC meetings and elections
39:43 - How the Merger and Negotiations committees are different
42:16 -Section Six polling and pilot participation
48:52 - National Support and Leadership
56:10 - Dealing with inflation
57:50 - Pilot Centric or Punitive - How a cultural shift could fill classes and slow attrition